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31#
發表於 24/9/2008 10:00 PM | 只看該作者

那有什麼用
都說了,無論有沒有能力等級,
那30特防對神蛋幫助不大
基本上沒能力等級,沒專眼,
沒啥pm能一下特攻打神蛋超過1/4
專眼都很難過1/3-.-

能力等級就取決於對方的特攻能力
以及對方是否擁有波導彈等技能
而不是神蛋那30特防

[ 本帖最後由 Kenny121212 於 24/9/2008 10:01 PM 編輯 ]
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32#
發表於 24/9/2008 10:02 PM | 只看該作者
原帖由 Kenny121212 於 24/9/2008 09:17 PM 發表

除左燈神沒啥隻鬼打得入神蛋
最多磨pp而已


我想說的是這一型對鬼完全無解.....
其他型有狀態有特攻招好d lol
夢魘對付神蛋不錯(只要神蛋不是冥想的話)
上場替身冥想強化
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33#
發表於 24/9/2008 10:03 PM | 只看該作者
蓋歐卡沖浪不用專眼都可以破1/4...接近1/3
不過問題是不加雙防的話,普通pm一記特攻扣1/3也沒有,可是物攻夠秒殺了
而且hp特防本來就夠高去擋,6級特攻可不是神蛋應擋既野
所以+特防有用,+物防更有用就是了
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34#
發表於 24/9/2008 10:03 PM | 只看該作者
原帖由 yin_yin1992 於 24/9/2008 10:02 PM 發表


我想說的是這一型對鬼完全無解.....
其他型有狀態有特攻招好d lol
夢魘對付神蛋不錯(只要神蛋不是冥想的話)
上場替身冥想強化

黑眼滅歌咪得,洗乜咁煩
原帖由 笨乂程 於 24/9/2008 10:03 PM 發表
蓋歐卡沖浪不用專眼都可以破1/4...接近1/3
不過問題是不加雙防的話,普通pm一記特攻扣1/3也沒有,可是物攻夠秒殺了
而且hp特防本來就夠高去擋,6級特攻可不是神蛋應擋既野
所以+特防有用,+物防更有用就是了

對不起我一向無視神獸
假設佢速專
硬食一下送佢一記地球投再生蛋
刮潮很快便沒威力

[ 本帖最後由 Kenny121212 於 24/9/2008 10:05 PM 編輯 ]
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35#
發表於 24/9/2008 10:04 PM | 只看該作者
原帖由 Kenny121212 於 24/9/2008 10:03 PM 發表

黑眼滅歌咪得,洗乜咁煩

為之後控場作準備
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36#
發表於 24/9/2008 10:07 PM | 只看該作者
原帖由 yin_yin1992 於 24/9/2008 10:04 PM 發表

為之後控場作準備

神蛋不換走才怪囧
話說1-2隻速物攻手就夠了
如果人地頭兩回合就換很難控
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37#
發表於 24/9/2008 10:10 PM | 只看該作者
http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/blissey
EVs

Blissey needs 252 Defense EVs, always. You may think "But Blissey is supposed to be taking special hits, not physical, so why all the Defense EVs?". The reason for this is that you get over double the ability to take physical hits by maxing your Defense EVs. This is a huge increase. In fact, 252 Defense Blissey takes neutral physical hits about as well as 252 HP Scizor or Spiritomb. It's nice to be able to take weaker physical hits and do what you need to do.

Most sets will want a Calm nature. The Special Defense EVs given on the Wish Blissey set lets you survive even a critical hit Choice Specs Modest Lucario Aura Sphere, and you are 3HKOed by non-critical hit Aura Spheres. This is probably the Special Defense level most people will want. It still guarantees a 3HKO from Choice Specs Gengar Focus Blast. Modest Choice Specs Heatran with Flash Fire activated also has to roll absolute max damage twice (less than a .066% chance, so negligible compared to the chance to get a critical hit) to 2HKO Blissey, otherwise it's a 3HKO with Leftovers. Nasty Plot Adaptability Porygon-Z Hyper Beam with Life Orb does less than 80% max. The EVs given on the "Cleric" set adds more Special Defense at the cost of Special Attack. This is the most Special Defense most Blissey should use in OU.

The Diverse Blissey's EVs are there mostly to show what a lot of people still use. This is primarily a hold-over from ADV, when Blissey didn't need any EVs to wall special attacks.

You can use any of the EV spreads on any of the Pokemon. The Calm Mind set is unique—you should probably only use that spread on that set. You most likely will not need to focus on Special Defense as much for the Calm Mind Blissey because it boosts its Special Defense with Calm Mind. You also don't need to put as much Special Defense on the Charm Blissey thanks to Light Screen helping out there, which is why it's significantly less bulky.

In all of ADV and in early DP, the instinct of most top players is to max Defense, and use a Bold nature, relying on Blissey's high base HP and Special Defense to take special hits. The level of special threats has risen in DP, however, to the point where this is not the best way to go.

The following examples may seem extreme, but many people rely on Blissey to take nearly all of their special attacks, meaning it needs to be able to stand up to a massive beating. If Blissey invests in Special Defense, it is 3HKOed by Choice Specs Lucario Aura Sphere, instead of 2HKOed. Gengar can 2HKO a Blissey that doesn't invest in Special Defense with Focus Blast if Stealth Rock is down or if there is a Sandstorm going, both of which are incredibly easy to do. Choice Specs Flash Fire Heatran using Fire Blast will often 2HKO Blissey even without ancillary damage if it has no Special Defense EVs, while investing in them with Calm means it never will. In extreme cases, Calm Blissey can stall out certain bulky attackers that Calm Mind up and abuse Rest, running them out of attacks in place of directly fainting them.

The primary danger of this is that Blissey is vulnerable to be 2HKOed by Choice Band Adamant Dugtrio. However, Blissey can stall it out of PP with Wish + Protect or Toxic + recovery, or it can stop Dugtrio with Counter or a powerful Ice Beam. When you consider that many Dugtrio run Life Orb so they can't be a victim of a powerful Pursuit as easily, and nearly all Dugtrio are Jolly to be faster than Infernape, this reason begins to hold even less water.

這算是我的想法
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38#
發表於 24/9/2008 10:12 PM | 只看該作者
原帖由 Kenny121212 於 24/9/2008 10:07 PM 發表

神蛋不換走才怪囧
話說1-2隻速物攻手就夠了
如果人地頭兩回合就換很難控

有一回合做了替身就很好了
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最討厭英文了....死md還要放一大堆...無視
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39#
發表於 24/9/2008 10:14 PM | 只看該作者

你真的認為路卡會裝專眼?
你真的認為在知道配招前不應換下?

我英文程度有限
不把東西都看完了
尤其是我根本不知pm的英文名
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40#
發表於 24/9/2008 10:17 PM | 只看該作者
原帖由 Kenny121212 於 24-9-2008 22:14 發表

你真的認為路卡會裝專眼?
你真的認為在知道配招前不應換下?

我英文程度有限
不把東西都看完了
尤其是我根本不知pm的英文名

CM路卡魯卡啊..........
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