請評新team

甲斐剎那

特防方面還好,小心有冥想的特攻pm
team對抗格鬥招很沒力

幻藍

原帖由 狗仔 於 5/3/2006 09:16 發表
火系已能ko毽子綿,大網蛇&剋拉剋羅斯了...
大網蛇幾好,唔好換走佢喇...>3<

面對火系有電燈怪和大奶罐吃招 , 問題不大

原帖由 PlayerSaber 於 5/3/2006 10:19 發表

第1隻貌似給圖圖犬差少少(雖然圖圖犬速低, 但以它的39X速<---加速果一次), 應該給第1隻強一點), 另外, 玩這招的話, 先制技不少得

大王燕和魯莽圖圖犬不同的地方是大王燕有攻擊力
大王燕不是單純用來玩魯莽 , 所以沒有用電光石火等威力不高的招
不過貌似用了加攻果也打不死人的什麼pm=.="

原帖由 sapphire 於 5/3/2006 10:37 發表

遇到火招還有和特性的能擋,我想問題不是太大......
不過既然樓主的隊伍特防不足,也可以把其中一隻怕火的物攻手換個特防盾

火系pm買少見少 , 而且有電燈怪和大奶罐 , 問題不大
我比較關注的是一些有壓倒性攻勢的速攻pm , 例如太陽伊貝 , 富迪 , 特攻形耿鬼等
現在考慮用土偶取代大鋼蛇 , 因為土偶可以用大爆發 , 又可以吃運氣之拳
但土偶的特防弱點不少 , 有水 , 草 , 冰三個常見屬性 , 有點不可靠

原帖由 sapphire 於 5/3/2006 20:40 發表

這個和用不用先制技能無關吧,剩少許HP的敵人又不一定要由去殺,而且除了用這戰術外還有其他用途

魯莽用來打防盾還好
有大奶罐的速度優勢的協助
鋼鳥等盾牌有回復招式也佔不到上風

原帖由 剎那 於 5/3/2006 22:31 發表
特防方面還好,小心有冥想的特攻pm
team對抗格鬥招很沒力

正是我想說的問題

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戰報半張....

Battle Mode: Ruby/Sapphire
Rule: Sleep Clause
Rule: Freeze Clause
Rule: Self-KO Clause
Rule: Apply PP Ups
Rule: Battle Timeout
Rule: Unrated
Mr Iggeh (UU) vs Chiko.  Begin!
Mr Iggeh (UU) sent out Ninetales (Lv.100 Ninetales)!
Chiko sent out Swellow (Lv.100 Swellow)!

Begin Turn #1
Mr Iggeh (UU) withdrew Ninetales!
Mr Iggeh (UU) sent out Cloyster (Lv.100 Cloyster)!
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Swellow used Return!
(25% damage)
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Cloyster's Leftovers restored its HP a little!
End of turn #1
Mr Iggeh (UU)'s Cloyster: 81% HP
Chiko's Swellow: 262 HP

Begin Turn #2
Chiko withdrew Swellow!
Chiko sent out Lanturn (Lv.100 Lanturn)!
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Cloyster used Spikes!
Chiko's team had Spikes scattered around it!
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Cloyster's Leftovers restored its HP a little!
End of turn #2
Mr Iggeh (UU)'s Cloyster: 87% HP
Chiko's Lanturn: 454 HP

Begin Turn #3
Mr Iggeh (UU) withdrew Cloyster!
Mr Iggeh (UU) sent out Quagsire (Lv.100 Quagsire)!
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Lanturn used Substitute!
Lanturn made a Substitute!
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Lanturn's Leftovers restored its HP a little!
End of turn #3
Mr Iggeh (UU)'s Quagsire: 100% HP
Chiko's Lanturn: 369 HP

Begin Turn #4
Lanturn used Toxic!
Quagsire was badly poisoned!
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Quagsire used Earthquake!
The Substitute took damage for Lanturn!
Lanturn's Substitute faded!
It's super effective!
---------------------------------
Lanturn's Leftovers restored its HP a little!
Quagsire is hurt by poison!
End of turn #4
Mr Iggeh (UU)'s Quagsire: 94% HP (Psn)
Chiko's Lanturn: 397 HP

Begin Turn #5
Mr Iggeh (UU) withdrew Quagsire!
Mr Iggeh (UU) sent out Muk (Lv.100 Muk)!
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Lanturn used Substitute!
Lanturn made a Substitute!
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Lanturn's Leftovers restored its HP a little!
End of turn #5
Mr Iggeh (UU)'s Muk: 100% HP
Chiko's Lanturn: 312 HP

Begin Turn #6
Lanturn used Thunderbolt!
(25% damage)
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Muk used Sludge Bomb!
The Substitute took damage for Lanturn!
Lanturn's Substitute faded!
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Lanturn's Leftovers restored its HP a little!
Muk's Leftovers restored its HP a little!
End of turn #6
Mr Iggeh (UU)'s Muk: 81% HP
Chiko's Lanturn: 340 HP

Begin Turn #7
Chiko withdrew Lanturn!
Chiko sent out Miltank (Lv.100 Miltank)!
Miltank is hurt by Spikes!
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Muk used Sludge Bomb!
(82 damage)
Miltank was poisoned!
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Miltank's Leftovers restored its HP a little!
Miltank is hurt by poison!
Muk's Leftovers restored its HP a little!
End of turn #7
Mr Iggeh (UU)'s Muk: 88% HP
Chiko's Miltank: 238 HP (Psn)

Begin Turn #8
Mr Iggeh (UU) withdrew Muk!
Mr Iggeh (UU) sent out Lickitung (Lv.100 Lickitung)!
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Miltank used Thunder Wave!
Lickitung is paralyzed! It may be unable to move!
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Miltank's Leftovers restored its HP a little!
Miltank is hurt by poison!
End of turn #8
Mr Iggeh (UU)'s Lickitung: 100% HP (Par)
Chiko's Miltank: 213 HP (Psn)

Begin Turn #9
Miltank used Milk Drink!
Miltank regained health!
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Lickitung is paralyzed! It can't move!
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Miltank is hurt by poison!
End of turn #9
Mr Iggeh (UU)'s Lickitung: 100% HP (Par)
Chiko's Miltank: 345 HP (Psn)

Begin Turn #10
Miltank used Heal Bell!
A bell chimed!
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Lickitung used Knock Off!
(14 damage)
Lickitung knocked off Miltank's Leftovers!
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End of turn #10
Mr Iggeh (UU)'s Lickitung: 100% HP (Par)
Chiko's Miltank: 331 HP

Begin Turn #11
Miltank used Seismic Toss!
(31% damage)
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Lickitung used Heal Bell!
A bell chimed!
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Lickitung's Leftovers restored its HP a little!
End of turn #11
Mr Iggeh (UU)'s Lickitung: 75% HP
Chiko's Miltank: 331 HP

Begin Turn #12
Mr Iggeh (UU) withdrew Lickitung!
Mr Iggeh (UU) sent out Quagsire (Lv.100 Quagsire)!
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Miltank used Seismic Toss!
(31% damage)
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Quagsire's Leftovers restored its HP a little!
End of turn #12
Mr Iggeh (UU)'s Quagsire: 69% HP
Chiko's Miltank: 331 HP

Begin Turn #13
Miltank used Seismic Toss!
(30% damage)
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Quagsire used Yawn!
Quagsire made Miltank drowsy!
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Quagsire's Leftovers restored its HP a little!
End of turn #13
Mr Iggeh (UU)'s Quagsire: 45% HP
Chiko's Miltank: 331 HP

Begin Turn #14
Quagsire is tightening its focus!
Chiko withdrew Miltank!
Chiko sent out Jumpluff (Lv.100 Jumpluff)!
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Quagsire used Focus Punch!
(83 damage)
It's not very effective...
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Jumpluff's Leftovers restored its HP a little!
Quagsire's Leftovers restored its HP a little!
End of turn #14
Mr Iggeh (UU)'s Quagsire: 51% HP
Chiko's Jumpluff: 293 HP

Begin Turn #15
Mr Iggeh (UU) withdrew Quagsire!
Mr Iggeh (UU) sent out Ninetales (Lv.100 Ninetales)!
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Jumpluff used Substitute!
Jumpluff made a Substitute!
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Jumpluff's Leftovers restored its HP a little!
End of turn #15
Mr Iggeh (UU)'s Ninetales: 100% HP
Chiko's Jumpluff: 227 HP

Begin Turn #16
Jumpluff used Leech Seed!
Ninetales was seeded!
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Ninetales used Flamethrower!
The Substitute took damage for Jumpluff!
Jumpluff's Substitute faded!
It's super effective!
---------------------------------
Jumpluff's Leftovers restored its HP a little!
Ninetales's health is sapped by Leech Seed!
End of turn #16
Mr Iggeh (UU)'s Ninetales: 88% HP
Chiko's Jumpluff: 284 HP

Begin Turn #17
Chiko withdrew Jumpluff!
Chiko sent out Lanturn (Lv.100 Lanturn)!
Lanturn is hurt by Spikes!
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Ninetales used Flamethrower!
(66 damage)
It's not very effective...
---------------------------------
Ninetales's Leftovers restored its HP a little!
Ninetales's health is sapped by Leech Seed!
Lanturn's Leftovers restored its HP a little!
End of turn #17
Mr Iggeh (UU)'s Ninetales: 82% HP
Chiko's Lanturn: 280 HP

Begin Turn #18
Ninetales used Will-O-Wisp!
Lanturn was burned!
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Lanturn used Thunderbolt!
(42% damage)
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Ninetales's Leftovers restored its HP a little!
Ninetales's health is sapped by Leech Seed!
Lanturn's Leftovers restored its HP a little!
Lanturn is hurt by its burn!
End of turn #18
Mr Iggeh (UU)'s Ninetales: 33% HP
Chiko's Lanturn: 287 HP (Brn)

Begin Turn #19
Mr Iggeh (UU) withdrew Ninetales!
Mr Iggeh (UU) sent out Quagsire (Lv.100 Quagsire)!
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Lanturn used Ice Beam!
(27% damage)
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Lanturn's Leftovers restored its HP a little!
Lanturn is hurt by its burn!
Quagsire's Leftovers restored its HP a little!
End of turn #19
Mr Iggeh (UU)'s Quagsire: 30% HP
Chiko's Lanturn: 259 HP (Brn)

Begin Turn #20
Chiko withdrew Lanturn!
Chiko sent out Claydol (Lv.100 Claydol)!
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Quagsire used Earthquake!
Claydol makes Ground moves miss with Levitate!
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Quagsire's Leftovers restored its HP a little!
End of turn #20
Mr Iggeh (UU)'s Quagsire: 36% HP
Chiko's Claydol: 324 HP

Begin Turn #21
Mr Iggeh (UU) withdrew Quagsire!
Mr Iggeh (UU) sent out Cloyster (Lv.100 Cloyster)!
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Claydol used Earthquake!
(15% damage)
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Cloyster's Leftovers restored its HP a little!
End of turn #21
Mr Iggeh (UU)'s Cloyster: 78% HP
Chiko's Claydol: 324 HP

Begin Turn #22
Chiko withdrew Claydol!
Chiko sent out Lanturn (Lv.100 Lanturn)!
Lanturn is hurt by Spikes!
---------------------------------
Cloyster used Spikes!
Chiko's team had Spikes scattered around it!
---------------------------------
Cloyster's Leftovers restored its HP a little!
Lanturn's Leftovers restored its HP a little!
Lanturn is hurt by its burn!
End of turn #22
Mr Iggeh (UU)'s Cloyster: 84% HP
Chiko's Lanturn: 174 HP (Brn)

Begin Turn #23
Mr Iggeh (UU) withdrew Cloyster!
Mr Iggeh (UU) sent out Lickitung (Lv.100 Lickitung)!
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Lanturn used Toxic!
Lickitung was badly poisoned!
---------------------------------
Lanturn's Leftovers restored its HP a little!
Lanturn is hurt by its burn!
Lickitung's Leftovers restored its HP a little!
Lickitung is hurt by poison!
End of turn #23
Mr Iggeh (UU)'s Lickitung: 75% HP (Psn)
Chiko's Lanturn: 146 HP (Brn)

Begin Turn #24
Chiko withdrew Lanturn!
Chiko sent out Miltank (Lv.100 Miltank)!
Miltank is hurt by Spikes!
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Lickitung used Wish!
Lickitung made a Wish!
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Lickitung's Leftovers restored its HP a little!
Lickitung is hurt by poison!
End of turn #24
Mr Iggeh (UU)'s Lickitung: 69% HP (Psn)
Chiko's Miltank: 257 HP

Begin Turn #25
Mr Iggeh (UU) withdrew Lickitung!
Mr Iggeh (UU) sent out Quagsire (Lv.100 Quagsire)!
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Miltank used Heal Bell!
A bell chimed!
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Lickitung's Wish came true!
Quagsire regained health!
Quagsire's Leftovers restored its HP a little!
End of turn #25
Mr Iggeh (UU)'s Quagsire: 92% HP
Chiko's Miltank: 257 HP

Begin Turn #26
Quagsire is tightening its focus!
Miltank used Seismic Toss!
(30% damage)
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Quagsire lost its focus and couldn't move!
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Quagsire's Leftovers restored its HP a little!
End of turn #26
Mr Iggeh (UU)'s Quagsire: 68% HP
Chiko's Miltank: 257 HP

Begin Turn #27
Mr Iggeh (UU) withdrew Quagsire!
Mr Iggeh (UU) sent out Cloyster (Lv.100 Cloyster)!
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Miltank used Seismic Toss!
(34% damage)
---------------------------------
Cloyster's Leftovers restored its HP a little!
End of turn #27
Mr Iggeh (UU)'s Cloyster: 56% HP
Chiko's Miltank: 257 HP

Begin Turn #28
Miltank used Seismic Toss!
(33% damage)
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Cloyster used Spikes!
Chiko's team had Spikes scattered around it!
---------------------------------
Cloyster's Leftovers restored its HP a little!
End of turn #28
Mr Iggeh (UU)'s Cloyster: 29% HP
Chiko's Miltank: 257 HP

Begin Turn #29
Miltank used Seismic Toss!
(29% damage)
Cloyster fainted!
Mr Iggeh (UU) sent out Lickitung (Lv.100 Lickitung)!
---------------------------------
Lickitung's Leftovers restored its HP a little!
Lickitung is hurt by poison!
End of turn #29
Mr Iggeh (UU)'s Lickitung: 69% HP (Psn)
Chiko's Miltank: 257 HP

Begin Turn #30
Miltank used Seismic Toss!
(31% damage)
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Lickitung used Heal Bell!
A bell chimed!
---------------------------------
Lickitung's Leftovers restored its HP a little!
End of turn #30
Mr Iggeh (UU)'s Lickitung: 44% HP
Chiko's Miltank: 257 HP

Begin Turn #31
Miltank used Seismic Toss!
(31% damage)
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Lickitung used Wish!
Lickitung made a Wish!
---------------------------------
Lickitung's Leftovers restored its HP a little!
End of turn #31
Mr Iggeh (UU)'s Lickitung: 19% HP
Chiko's Miltank: 257 HP

Begin Turn #32
Mr Iggeh (UU) withdrew Lickitung!
Mr Iggeh (UU) sent out Grumpig (Lv.100 Grumpig)!
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Miltank used Thunder Wave!
Grumpig is paralyzed! It may be unable to move!
---------------------------------
Lickitung's Wish came true!
Grumpig's HP is full!
End of turn #32
Mr Iggeh (UU)'s Grumpig: 100% HP (Par)
Chiko's Miltank: 257 HP

Begin Turn #33
Chiko withdrew Miltank!
Chiko sent out Claydol (Lv.100 Claydol)!
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Grumpig used Psychic!
(35 damage)
It's not very effective...
---------------------------------
Claydol's Leftovers restored its HP a little!
End of turn #33
Mr Iggeh (UU)'s Grumpig: 100% HP (Par)
Chiko's Claydol: 309 HP

Begin Turn #34
Claydol used Shadow Ball!
(46% damage)
It's super effective!
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Grumpig used Calm Mind!
Grumpig's Special Attack rose!
Grumpig's Special Defense rose!
---------------------------------
Claydol's Leftovers restored its HP a little!
Grumpig's Leftovers restored its HP a little!
End of turn #34
Mr Iggeh (UU)'s Grumpig: 60% HP (Par)
Chiko's Claydol: 324 HP

Begin Turn #35
Claydol used Cosmic Power!
Claydol's Defense rose!
Claydol's Special Defense rose!
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Grumpig used Ice Punch!
(85 damage)
It's super effective!
---------------------------------
Claydol's Leftovers restored its HP a little!
Grumpig's Leftovers restored its HP a little!
End of turn #35
Mr Iggeh (UU)'s Grumpig: 66% HP (Par)
Chiko's Claydol: 259 HP

[ 本帖最後由 可愛的兔兒 於 6/3/2006 13:50 編輯 ]

甲斐剎那

對方沼王和某豬上場可以硬上赫拉

此team要防富迪等特攻pm可以試試大陽岩和月石

[ 本帖最後由 剎那 於 7/3/2006 11:27 編輯 ]

幻藍

原帖由 剎那 於 7/3/2006 11:24 發表
對方沼王和某豬上場可以硬上赫拉

此team要防富迪等特攻pm可以試試大陽岩和月石

月神岩反冥想特攻pm比較吃力的樣子~.~
現在用土偶取代了大鋼蛇 , 針對性地用了影球
貌似只對少部份pm有用 , 有冥想的富迪來招冷凍拳也吃不下的樣子
終歸都是弱點太多了~.~
現在頭疼404運拳~.~救命/.\

[ 本帖最後由 可愛的兔兒 於 7/3/2006 21:49 編輯 ]

甲斐剎那

原帖由 可愛的兔兒 於 7/3/2006 21:48 發表

月神岩反冥想特攻pm比較吃力的樣子~.~
現在用土偶取代了大鋼蛇 , 針對性地用了影球
貌似只對少部份pm有用 , 有冥想的富迪來招冷凍拳也吃不下的樣子
終歸都是弱點太多了~.~
現在頭疼404運拳~.~救命/.\

月石有催眠+冥想,加上抗特攻的抗性好
特防也不懶,可以考慮

404hp戰術用土偶硬吃就好
怕覺醒鬼的話把hp物防努力值練滿

PlayerSaber

原帖由 剎那 於 7/3/2006 22:26 發表

月石有催眠+冥想,加上抗特攻的抗性好
特防也不懶,可以考慮

404hp戰術用土偶硬吃就好
怕覺醒鬼的話把hp物防努力值練滿

真想像不到現在也有非Uber的404戰術..........

速度應該很低.......不過看下來也蠻好用的樣子............

K龍

去升HP不一定係為了替身，當然以牠的耐力就算做了替身多半也會被一招打爆，但有時在沒有替身的情況下硬死對手一招也可能是必要的，事實上覺得為這東東up 252物攻確是有點浪費........

295物攻的鋼蛇爆不死奇異花？除非係對方max的291物防 + 上你的大爆炸剛好* 到最低的85% 才有可能餘下漂亮的3HP.........倒運到這地步也無話可說了.......

赫拉有考慮過換走運拳加入醒鬼嗎？

鋼蛇換做土偶會做成3隻怕冰，想要自爆的高特防pm可考慮卡比(因為Pokemon XD的關係令牠能習得自爆，not大爆炸)，對於110物攻種的牠加上有屬修，200威力的自爆也夠用了.......

Nido

295物攻的鋼蛇爆不死奇異花？除非係對方max的291物防 + 上你的大爆炸剛好* 到最低的85% 才有可能餘下漂亮的3HP.........倒運到這地步也無話可說了.......

當時我的奇異花物防只有244...好像還餘下1%HP-.-
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題外話:久違了的高手-.-..評評我剛更新了的TEAM好嗎?

sapphire

原帖由 Nido 於 8/3/2006 20:48 發表

當時我的奇異花物防只有244...好像還餘下1%HP-.-
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題外話:久違了的高手-.-..評評我剛更新了的TEAM好嗎?

那更有問題了,295攻的用打244防的至少扣432 HP,當時有其他效果嗎?如等等
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其實這樣配招的用真的有用嗎=.=?總覺得沒什麼威脅......

[ 本帖最後由 sapphire 於 8/3/2006 21:01 編輯 ]