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第五代招式、特性、道具效果變更相關(英文)

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發表於 27/9/2010 09:08 PM | 只看該作者 回帖獎勵 |正序瀏覽 |閱讀模式
本帖最後由 mk311111 於 28/9/2010 02:17 AM 編輯

Source:http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=79340
紅字為本人認為的重點

Changes to old moves\items\abilities:

These only include changes to mechanics.  Numerical changes like "Fire Spin is now 35 power" are not listed.
ConfirmedMagic Coat now reflects Whirlwind, Roar, Disable, Spite, Spikes, Foresight, Encore, Torment, Taunt, Odor Sleuth, Miracle Eye, Embargo, Heal Block, Toxic Spikes, Defog, and Stealth Rock(jumpluff, Philip7086)
ConfirmedUsing U-turn\Volt Change to switch from one Pokemon to another knowing the same move and holding a Choice item no longer locks it into that move.  (dbolt)
ConfirmedSleep Talk no longer fails after the first use if the user is holding a Choice item.  (MeroMero)
ConfirmedIf a Trick user holding a Choice item swaps with another Pokemon holding a Choice item, they are not locked into Trick the turn immediately after.  (Death Phenomeno)
ConfirmedSleep counters now reset to their original number if the sleeping Pokemon is switched out.  (MeroMero)
ConfirmedExplosion and Selfdestruct no longer halves the Defense of the targets, making them effectively 250\200 power instead of 500\400. (MeroMero)
ConfirmedLunar Dance no longer forces an immediate switch to another Pokemon; if the opponent\other Pokemon on the field still have to make their move, they will do so and then the turn will end.  (Death Phenomeno)
ConfirmedAromatherapy (and likely Heal Bell) now lists every Pokemon that was healed, and what status condition was cured.  (Death Phenomeno)
ConfirmedAcupressure now hits targets behind a Substitute.  (pikaachi)
ConfirmedGiratina-O is still immune to having its Griseous Orb removed during battle.  (Mien)
ConfirmedGriseous Orb can now be held by any Pokemon, and Tricked between any Pokemon during battle except for Giratina, on whom it fails.  (Mien)
ConfirmedAir Lock and Cloud Nine now give an activation notification upon entering battle. (Seriin)
ConfirmedStorm Drain now give immunity to Water attacks as well as a SpAttk boost upon being hit with a Water move. (jumpluff)
ConfirmedGround-types with Lightningrod do not get a SpAttk boost from being hit with an Electric attack; type immunity takes precedence.  (howabe)
ConfirmedSturdy: Always lets a Pokemon at full health to survive any hit with 1 HP, even if the ability has been activated before.  If a Pokemon has both Focus Sash and Sturdy, Sturdy activates first. (howabe)
ConfirmedMulti-hit Move Synopsis:
Multi-hit moves now break through Focus Sash and Sturdy.If the first hit would not be an OHKO, Focus Sash\Sturdy never trigger.  If the first hit would have been an OHKO, Focus Sash and Sturdy would trigger, but subsequent hits would KO the Pokemon. (OmegaDonut, oneballjay, Philip7086)
Multi-hit moves are treated as separate attacks, triggering some abilities multiple times.  This includes recoil from Rough Skin\Iron Barbs\Rugged Helmet, Breakable Armor activation, and Herbivore activation.  (need a post for credit)
However, for the purposes of Life Orb multi-hit moves are treated as a single attack.  (Philip7086)
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ConfirmedSnatch steals Conversion, Wish, Recycle, Imprison, Healing Wish, Power Trick, Lucky Chant, Aqua Ring, Magnet Rise, and Lunar Dance (Philip7086, jumpluff #1,#2, #3)
TentativeIf an opponent uses a Berry, Pickup will give the Pokemon the berry used, presumably if they are not holding an item.  Does it work for other one-use items, like the Element Gems?  If there are multiple Pickup Pokemon in play, will they all pick up a copy of the berry?  (Jibaku)

New moves\items\abilites:
ConfirmedDragon Tail\Overhead Throw deals damage and forces the target to switch out (if the target's team has anybody left to switch to).  The target is not forced out if they have a Substitute up, however.  (Jibaku)
ConfirmedBalloon grants the holder immunity to Ground moves until hit by another damaging move.  Stealth Rock does not pop it.  (dbolt)
ConfirmedMake Friends changes the target's ability to that of the user.  Works against even Slow Start and Wonder Guard, does not work against Truant.  (Mien)
ConfirmedBreakable Armor lowers Defense but raises Speed one stage when hit by a move.  It actives for every hit of a multi-hit move.  (dbolt)
ConfirmedMiracle Skin reduces the chance of a status effect move working by 50%.  Does this also reduce the chance of a status effect occurring as a damaging move's side effect (like Thunder's paralysis) by 50% as well?  (Slipperjeans)
ConfirmedWide Guard\Fast Guard run off the same success counter as Protect\Detect\Endure.  (Sixonesix)
ConfirmedIllusion allows Zoroark\Zorua to appear to be the last Pokemon in the party, right down to the nickname and PokeBall.  The illusion fades when Zoroark\Zorua is attacked, not when hit by entry hazards.  The last Pokemon in the party may change during battle, however, and the Illusion will change accordingly.  (Slipperjeans, Death Incarnate)
ConfirmedPre-Evolution Stone grants a 1.5x boost to Defense and SpDef of any not-fully-evolved Pokemon holding it.  (Wichu)
ConfirmedRegeneration heals the Pokemon 1/3 of its maximum HP upon switching out.  (dbolt)
ConfirmedOverconfidence gives the Pokemon a +1 boost to Attack when it KOs a Pokemon, even its own partner in a Double\Triple battle.  The boost occurs after all damage is dealt. (iruchii)
ConfirmedWind Storm [M542] has its accuracy boosted to 100% in rain; its accuracy remains 70% in all other weather. (Mien)
ConfirmedBull's Eye (aka Aiming Mark): The holder loses its type immunities as long as it is holding it.  It does not lose type immunities granted by abilities such as Levitate.(KYKE, iruchii)
ConfirmedTelepathy protects against allies' direct-damaging attacks, even if that attack is a single-target attack aimed directly at it. (Slipperjeans)
ConfirmedCompetitive Spirit raises Attack one level when hit by a stat-lowering move or ability such as Intimidate (effectively countering it).  Does not apply to self-inflicted stat drops like those from Close Combat.  (Slipperjeans)
ConfirmedEncourage gives a 1.3x boost to moves that have a secondary effect on the opponent, but prevents that effect from occurring.  Does not apply to moves that have been given the flinch secondary effect by King's Rock. (Slipperjeans Afti)
ConfirmedRugged Helmet: Each contact hit against a Pokemon holding a Rugged Helmet deals 1\6 of the attacker's total HP to the attacker, stacks with Iron Barbs.   The damage is dealt directly to the attacker and not a Substitute it might have.  (MauriiDS, jumpluff, Philip7086 #1, #2)
ConfirmedIron Barbs: Each contact hit against an Iron Barbs Pokemon deals 1\8 of the attacker's total HP to the attacker, stacks with Rugged Helmet.  The damage is dealt directly to the attacker and not a Substitute it might have.  (MauriiDS, jumpluff, Philip7086 #1, #2)
ConfirmedVictory Star gives moves of the Pokemon and its allies a 10% accuracy boost to all moves(Mien)
ConfirmedDustproof protects the Pokemon from damaging weather effects; does not protect against additional boosts from weather (such as Rain's boost to Water moves).  (Mien)
ConfirmedHerbivore grants immunity to all Grass-moves, both damaging and non-damaging, and raises Attack one stage when hit by such.  The immunity extends even to Sleep Powder, Stun Spore, Cotton Spore, Worry Seed, Leech Seed, and Grasswhistle, but not Aromatherapy(dbolt #1, #2)
ConfirmedEvil Eye, normally 50 power, is boosted to 100 power against a target with Burn, Freeze, Paralysis, Sleep, and Poison.  (jumpluff, Philip7086)
TentativeMischievous Heart: Moves that do not deal direct damage (i.e. not classified as physical or special), including Leech Seed, are given +1 speed priority.  Have not tested to see if there are any exceptions.  (Futility, iruchii)
TentativeHeavy Bomber has 40, 60, 80, 100, and 120 BP, increasing against lighter targets.  Is also based on user's weight, so it's not solely a reverse Grass Knot\Low Kick.  (Mien, Peterko)
A) 120 base power, if target′s weight is lower or equal to 1/5 (20%) of user′s weight
B) 100 base power, if target′s weight is greater than 1/5 (20%) of user′s weight and lower or equal to 1/4 (25%) of user′s weight
C) 80 base power, if target′s weight is greater than 1/4 (25%) of user′s weight and lower or equal to 1/2 (50%) of user′s weight
D) 60 base power, if target′s weight is greater than 1/3 (33.3%) of user′s weight and lower or equal to 1/2 of user′s weight (50%)
E) 40 base power, if target′s weight is greater than 1/2 (50%) of user′s weight
Heavy Bomber mechanics, tentative


TentativeAssist Power's base power is 20 + 20 * each stage of stat boost.  Stat drops are not factored in.  Have not found a cap yet.  (OmegaDonut)
TentativeFire\Grass\Water Oath, when used right after another in a Doubles or Triples battle, creates a field effect that lasts for 4 turns.  (It is unknown whether the same can be applied to Singles or Rotation battles.  (MINSC)

Grass + Fire Oath -> Opponents are damaged for 1/8 of their total HP at the end of the turn.
Fire + Water Oath -> Speed of all opponents is reduced by 50%.
Water + Grass Oath -> Doubles the chance of a move's side effect occurring.  Does not stack with Serene Grace.

If two Oath moves form a combo, their power will double.  Both moves will target the Pokemon that the slower Oath user is attacking, even if the faster Oath user chose a completely different target.

Still to test if different combos exist, what happens if two not on the list are chosen, whether they work in Singles or Rotation battles.
Specific Oath Combinations & Further Info



Dream World-exclusive abilities (LOW PRIORITY)
ConfirmedContrarian: All stat change effects are reversed; a stat-lowering move used against the Pokemon will actually raise the respective stat, and a move used by the user (such as Leaf Storm) that lowers the users stats will actually raise them.  (howabe)
ConfirmedHarvest will restore a used berry at the end of the turn.  If conditions for berry use are met the berry will be immediately used, however, and not be restored again.  (Mien)
ConfirmedLight Metal halves the weight of the Pokemon but does not alter damage from weight-based moves any other way.(Mien)
TentativeMagic Mirror acts like permanent Magic Coat.  Further testing will be needed to confirm if it works 100% of the time; low priority because MM Espeon is a Dream World Pokemon. (howabe)
TentativePoison Rampage\Heat Rampage raise Attack\SpAttk 1.5x, respectively, when the Pokemon is poisoned\burned.  (Slipperjeans)
TentativeMulti-Scale reduced damage from attacks by 0.5x if at full health.  (Slipperjeans)

Rotation Battles
ConfirmedIntimidate: Affects only the opposing active Pokemon, not all three opponents on the field, and is only activated once while the Pokemon is on the field.  (skarm, Afti)
ConfirmedWeather abilities do not activate unless the Pokemon is the first active Pokemon on the field or fully switched in (from off the field).  Does not activate even if rotated in.  (Death Incarnate)
TentativeRotating a Pokemon out does not removes its buffs\debuffs, ability changes, Leech Seed, etc.

Rumors proven false:
BustedIV system has been changed (PokeGen programmer)
BustedThunder Wave can now hit Ground-type Pokemon and Pokemon with Lightningrod or Motor Drive. (KYKE)
BustedHail boosts Defense of Ice-types and boosts power of Ice moves 1.5x (stellar)
BustedAir Lock and Cloud Nine "erase" existing weather. (Seriin)
BustedDefog clears entry hazards (Stealth Rock, Spikes, etc.) on both sides of the field (Slipperjeans)
BustedStealth Rock stacks, also 「自主規範」 you cookie (jumpluff)
BustedAiming Mark allows holder to hit type immunities (stellar)
BustedTorment now prevents a repeated move from working the same turn Torment is used, shame on me. (howabe)
BustedMetal Burst now returns 2x damage instead of 1.5x (Mien)
BustedHyper Beam\Giga Impact allow the user to switch out the turn after use. (iruchii)
BustedJustice Heart grants immunity to Dark damaging attacks.  (dbolt)
BustedRest lasts three turns now (MeroMero, but I'm sure someone else pointed this out days prior so if you posted it first speak up!)
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 樓主| 發表於 28/9/2010 02:21 AM | 只看該作者
樓上對了。
這意味以往依靠睡眠的PM更難在場上隨意進出,例如卡比和水君。
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發表於 28/9/2010 01:05 AM | 只看該作者

唔係好明, 姐係當rest訓兩個回合
原本可以訓->換->再換出->訓->換->再換出->醒
宜家每次再被換入, 從新計訓既兩個回合?
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發表於 28/9/2010 12:40 AM | 只看該作者
魔法反射特性好似有點勁過頭
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發表於 28/9/2010 12:09 AM | 只看該作者
Multi-hit moves are treated as separate attacks, triggering some abilities multiple times.  This includes recoil from Rough Skin\Iron Barbs\Rugged Helmet, Breakable Armor activation, and Herbivore activation.  (need a post for credit)

種子機關槍強大呀...一個不好射夠5下...
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發表於 27/9/2010 11:00 PM | 只看該作者
Sleep counters now reset to their original number if the sleeping Pokemon is switched out.  
o  我一直以為這個原本就是呢
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發表於 27/9/2010 10:09 PM | 只看該作者
如果係中文就大好- -
英文眼花花@_@
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 樓主| 發表於 27/9/2010 09:55 PM | 只看該作者
我相信立2同吉利蛋都有效
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發表於 27/9/2010 09:49 PM | 只看該作者
原來草食性特性有如此強效...連催眠粉和種子都能吃進肚子裏...
另多次攻擊終也能破氣腰...~~
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發表於 27/9/2010 09:46 PM | 只看該作者
本帖最後由 柏爾 於 27/9/2010 09:49 PM 編輯

Confirmed Pre-Evolution Stone grants a 1.5x boost to Defense and SpDef of any not-fully-evolved Pokemon holding it.

咁立方獸2 用算唔算?
用到既話又可唔可以增加佢係盾牌中既地位?反正都有自我再生
真係max血max+是但一邊防既話都可以到400幾 另一邊防都有成300幾
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