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作者: hinchun34    時間: 22/3/2005 06:46 PM
標題: a eng. question
A number of tickets is/are (reserve)for students.
(passive voice)can u give me a reason?thx
作者: 抹茶可樂    時間: 22/3/2005 07:26 PM
Originally posted by hinchun34 at 2005-3-22 07:14 PM:

my most of the teacher told that the answer is'are'.
i don't believe them and get back some marks in the test. i write the answer same as u. The teacher said that although 'a number' was single, ...

I checked the dictionary and found that I have made a mistake.

Anumber of ticketsarereserved for students.
COMPARE:
The number of ticketsisreserved for students.
作者: hinchun34    時間: 22/3/2005 07:38 PM
Originally posted by 落雷 at 2005-3-22 07:26 PM:

I checked the dictionary and found that I have made a mistake.

Anumber of ticketsarereserved for students.
COMPARE:
The number of ticketsisrese ...

i have writtenA number of ticket not the number of tickets(why?)
and a number=a lot(secret told me)

[ Last edited by hinchun34 on 2005-3-23 at 10:56 PM ]
作者: secret    時間: 23/3/2005 07:41 PM
Originally posted by hinchun34 at 2005-3-22 07:38 PM:

i have written A number of ticket not the number os tickets
and a number=a lot(secret told me)

[ Last edited by hinchun34 on 2005-3-22 at 08:04 PM ]


Yes,so we can change the sentence like this:
A lot of tickets are/were reserved(to......).
The same meaning...am I right......
作者: hinchun34    時間: 23/3/2005 07:59 PM
Originally posted by secret at 2005-3-23 07:41 PM:


Yes,so we can change the sentence like this:
A lot of tickets are/were reserved(to......).
The same meaning...am I right......

but you think it in the other way
a number is single only, so it must be 'is'
but i hv questioned some teachers and some of teachers said 'is' and'are'
so i think i can't hv the correct answer[E-Sad]
作者: secret    時間: 23/3/2005 08:26 PM
Originally posted by hinchun34 at 2005-3-23 07:59 PM:

but you think it in the other way
a number is single only, so it must be 'is'
but i hv questioned some teachers and some of teachers said 'is' and'are'
so i think i can't hv the correct answer ...


No no no,"A number of...." represents the tickets, not "a number".
作者: oscar    時間: 23/3/2005 10:14 PM
Originally posted by hinchun34 at 2005-3-23 19:59:

but you think it in the other way
a number is single only, so it must be 'is'
but i hv questioned some teachers and some of teachers said 'is' and'are'
so i think i can't hv the correct answer ...

這類的agreement要背的~
好像：
1. "One of the" + a plural noun + a singular verb
e.g. One of the girls fails the exam.
2a. "The number of" + plural noun + singular verb
2b. "A number of" + plural noun + plural verb
e.g. The number of boys is fifty.
       A number of boys are playing football.
3. an amount + singular verb
e.g. Ten kilometres is a long distance.
還有很多很多...
(以上資料轉載於"English Grammar For Junior Forms" by Dr. Paul Hill)
作者: hinchun34    時間: 23/3/2005 10:19 PM
Originally posted by secret at 2005-3-23 08:26 PM:


No no no,"A number of...." represents the tickets, not "a number".

you are correct. but have you learned 'collective nouns'. A number of tickets
although 'tickets' is not single, a number of is the main word.'A' of cource is a article, 'A' is single, so it is 'is', that's all of my talking about this. i am not sure.
Originally posted by oscar at 2005-3-23 10:14 PM:

這類的agreement要背的~
好像：
1. "One of the" + a plural noun + a singular verb
e.g. One of the girls fails the exam.
2a. "The number of" + plural noun + singular verb
2b ...

but why some teachers and F.6,7 told me the answer is 'is'. and a note said that if we use on this case, we will use 'is'.

[ Last edited by hinchun34 on 2005-3-23 at 10:22 PM ]
作者: oscar    時間: 23/3/2005 10:26 PM
Originally posted by hinchun34 at 2005-3-23 22:19:

you are correct. but have you learned 'collective nouns'. A number of tickets
although 'tickets' is not single, a number of is the main word.'A' of cource is a article, 'A' is single, so it is ' ...

Collective nouns contain at least two meanings.
Like 'family', it can be treated as a whole family and different family members.
e.g. My family is on a picnic.(Family here means the whole family.)
      My family are all professionals.(Family here means every family members.)
In your case 'A number of tickets', this phrase is not a collective noun.
Also, in a normal case, plural verb should be followed by "A number of (plural noun)".
作者: hinchun34    時間: 23/3/2005 10:30 PM
Originally posted by oscar at 2005-3-23 10:26 PM:

Collective nouns contain at least two meanings.
Like 'family', it can be treated as a whole family and different family members.
e.g. My family is on a picnic.(Family here means the whole famil ...

why 'a number of' is plural and it is 'A'. how about 'a group of' it is used in 'is'
or my eng. is bad.
作者: oscar    時間: 23/3/2005 10:31 PM
Originally posted by hinchun34 at 2005-3-23 22:19:

but why some teachers and F.6,7 told me the answer is 'is'. and a note said that if we use on this case, we will use 'is'.

那麼你相信老師及大同學，還是相信一個英文系的老教授呢？
作者: oscar    時間: 23/3/2005 10:32 PM
Originally posted by hinchun34 at 2005-3-23 22:30:

why 'a number of' is plural and it is 'A'. how about 'a group of' it is used in 'is'
or my eng. is bad.

你不要理會是什麼A，你只要記住A number of一定要用plural verbs
作者: hinchun34    時間: 23/3/2005 10:35 PM
Originally posted by oscar at 2005-3-23 10:32 PM:

你不要理會是什麼A，你只要記住A number of一定要用plural verbs

ok i know now thx a lot! u improve me a lot of problems!thx,oscar![E-Hap]
作者: oscar    時間: 23/3/2005 10:44 PM
唉...香港人既水平越來越低....
都係個死人李x章搞C掍
作者: hinchun34    時間: 23/3/2005 10:46 PM
Originally posted by oscar at 2005-3-23 10:44 PM:
唉...香港人既水平越來越低....
都係個死人李x章搞C掍

you are correct! but i am just F.2.this question is in my test.
作者: secret    時間: 23/3/2005 10:48 PM
Originally posted by oscar at 2005-3-23 10:44 PM:
唉...香港人既水平越來越低....
都係個死人李x章搞C掍

I think my presentation is not good enough....so I can't explain this clearly to him........
By the way,I hve never heard about anything that you are talking about(beacause I am F.1 only...),can you teach me?Thanks.
作者: hinchun34    時間: 23/3/2005 10:50 PM
Originally posted by secret at 2005-3-23 10:48 PM:

I think my presentation is not good enough....so I can't explain this clearly to him........
By the way,I hve never heard about anything that you are talking about(beacause I am F.1 only...),can ...

do you know? although u are F.1,your eng. is better than me(why?you know la!!!)



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