原帖由 sapphire 於 5/3/2006 01:01 發表
為一招(飛)而升252攻值得嗎=.=?
原帖由 可愛的兔兒 於 5/3/2006 01:16 發表
之前是升248hp的 , 不過貌似牠的替身吃不下什麼招
所以升252攻希望可以傷害一下草系pm/.\
原帖由 狗仔 於 5/3/2006 09:16 發表
火系已能ko毽子綿,大網蛇&剋拉剋羅斯了...
大網蛇幾好,唔好換走佢喇...>3<
原帖由 PlayerSaber 於 5/3/2006 10:19 發表
第1隻貌似給圖圖犬差少少(雖然圖圖犬速低, 但以它的39X速<---加速果一次), 應該給第1隻強一點), 另外, 玩這招的話, 先制技不少得
原帖由 sapphire 於 5/3/2006 10:37 發表
遇到火招還有和特性的能擋,我想問題不是太大......
不過既然樓主的隊伍特防不足,也可以把其中一隻怕火的物攻手換個特防盾
這個用在上不一定要先制技能的,牠的速 ...
原帖由 PlayerSaber 於 5/3/2006 19:22 發表
反正這招只可殺一隻, 但圖圖犬可以催眠一隻(有風險)和殺一隻..........
原帖由 sapphire 於 5/3/2006 20:40 發表
這個和用不用先制技能無關吧,剩少許HP的敵人又不一定要由去殺,而且除了用這戰術外還有其他用途
原帖由 狗仔 於 5/3/2006 09:16 發表
火系已能ko毽子綿,大網蛇&剋拉剋羅斯了...
大網蛇幾好,唔好換走佢喇...>3<
原帖由 PlayerSaber 於 5/3/2006 10:19 發表
第1隻貌似給圖圖犬差少少(雖然圖圖犬速低, 但以它的39X速<---加速果一次), 應該給第1隻強一點), 另外, 玩這招的話, 先制技不少得
原帖由 sapphire 於 5/3/2006 10:37 發表
遇到火招還有和特性的能擋,我想問題不是太大......
不過既然樓主的隊伍特防不足,也可以把其中一隻怕火的物攻手換個特防盾
原帖由 sapphire 於 5/3/2006 20:40 發表
這個和用不用先制技能無關吧,剩少許HP的敵人又不一定要由去殺,而且除了用這戰術外還有其他用途
原帖由 剎那 於 5/3/2006 22:31 發表
特防方面還好,小心有冥想的特攻pm
team對抗格鬥招很沒力
Battle Mode: Ruby/Sapphire
Rule: Sleep Clause
Rule: Freeze Clause
Rule: Self-KO Clause
Rule: Apply PP Ups
Rule: Battle Timeout
Rule: Unrated
Mr Iggeh (UU) vs Chiko. Begin!
Mr Iggeh (UU) sent out Ninetales (Lv.100 Ninetales)!
Chiko sent out Swellow (Lv.100 Swellow)!
Begin Turn #1
Mr Iggeh (UU) withdrew Ninetales!
Mr Iggeh (UU) sent out Cloyster (Lv.100 Cloyster)!
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Swellow used Return!
(25% damage)
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Cloyster's Leftovers restored its HP a little!
End of turn #1
Mr Iggeh (UU)'s Cloyster: 81% HP
Chiko's Swellow: 262 HP
Begin Turn #2
Chiko withdrew Swellow!
Chiko sent out Lanturn (Lv.100 Lanturn)!
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Cloyster used Spikes!
Chiko's team had Spikes scattered around it!
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Cloyster's Leftovers restored its HP a little!
End of turn #2
Mr Iggeh (UU)'s Cloyster: 87% HP
Chiko's Lanturn: 454 HP
Begin Turn #3
Mr Iggeh (UU) withdrew Cloyster!
Mr Iggeh (UU) sent out Quagsire (Lv.100 Quagsire)!
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Lanturn used Substitute!
Lanturn made a Substitute!
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Lanturn's Leftovers restored its HP a little!
End of turn #3
Mr Iggeh (UU)'s Quagsire: 100% HP
Chiko's Lanturn: 369 HP
Begin Turn #4
Lanturn used Toxic!
Quagsire was badly poisoned!
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Quagsire used Earthquake!
The Substitute took damage for Lanturn!
Lanturn's Substitute faded!
It's super effective!
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Lanturn's Leftovers restored its HP a little!
Quagsire is hurt by poison!
End of turn #4
Mr Iggeh (UU)'s Quagsire: 94% HP (Psn)
Chiko's Lanturn: 397 HP
Begin Turn #5
Mr Iggeh (UU) withdrew Quagsire!
Mr Iggeh (UU) sent out Muk (Lv.100 Muk)!
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Lanturn used Substitute!
Lanturn made a Substitute!
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Lanturn's Leftovers restored its HP a little!
End of turn #5
Mr Iggeh (UU)'s Muk: 100% HP
Chiko's Lanturn: 312 HP
Begin Turn #6
Lanturn used Thunderbolt!
(25% damage)
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Muk used Sludge Bomb!
The Substitute took damage for Lanturn!
Lanturn's Substitute faded!
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Lanturn's Leftovers restored its HP a little!
Muk's Leftovers restored its HP a little!
End of turn #6
Mr Iggeh (UU)'s Muk: 81% HP
Chiko's Lanturn: 340 HP
Begin Turn #7
Chiko withdrew Lanturn!
Chiko sent out Miltank (Lv.100 Miltank)!
Miltank is hurt by Spikes!
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Muk used Sludge Bomb!
(82 damage)
Miltank was poisoned!
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Miltank's Leftovers restored its HP a little!
Miltank is hurt by poison!
Muk's Leftovers restored its HP a little!
End of turn #7
Mr Iggeh (UU)'s Muk: 88% HP
Chiko's Miltank: 238 HP (Psn)
Begin Turn #8
Mr Iggeh (UU) withdrew Muk!
Mr Iggeh (UU) sent out Lickitung (Lv.100 Lickitung)!
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Miltank used Thunder Wave!
Lickitung is paralyzed! It may be unable to move!
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Miltank's Leftovers restored its HP a little!
Miltank is hurt by poison!
End of turn #8
Mr Iggeh (UU)'s Lickitung: 100% HP (Par)
Chiko's Miltank: 213 HP (Psn)
Begin Turn #9
Miltank used Milk Drink!
Miltank regained health!
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Lickitung is paralyzed! It can't move!
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Miltank is hurt by poison!
End of turn #9
Mr Iggeh (UU)'s Lickitung: 100% HP (Par)
Chiko's Miltank: 345 HP (Psn)
Begin Turn #10
Miltank used Heal Bell!
A bell chimed!
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Lickitung used Knock Off!
(14 damage)
Lickitung knocked off Miltank's Leftovers!
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End of turn #10
Mr Iggeh (UU)'s Lickitung: 100% HP (Par)
Chiko's Miltank: 331 HP
Begin Turn #11
Miltank used Seismic Toss!
(31% damage)
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Lickitung used Heal Bell!
A bell chimed!
---------------------------------
Lickitung's Leftovers restored its HP a little!
End of turn #11
Mr Iggeh (UU)'s Lickitung: 75% HP
Chiko's Miltank: 331 HP
Begin Turn #12
Mr Iggeh (UU) withdrew Lickitung!
Mr Iggeh (UU) sent out Quagsire (Lv.100 Quagsire)!
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Miltank used Seismic Toss!
(31% damage)
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Quagsire's Leftovers restored its HP a little!
End of turn #12
Mr Iggeh (UU)'s Quagsire: 69% HP
Chiko's Miltank: 331 HP
Begin Turn #13
Miltank used Seismic Toss!
(30% damage)
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Quagsire used Yawn!
Quagsire made Miltank drowsy!
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Quagsire's Leftovers restored its HP a little!
End of turn #13
Mr Iggeh (UU)'s Quagsire: 45% HP
Chiko's Miltank: 331 HP
Begin Turn #14
Quagsire is tightening its focus!
Chiko withdrew Miltank!
Chiko sent out Jumpluff (Lv.100 Jumpluff)!
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Quagsire used Focus Punch!
(83 damage)
It's not very effective...
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Jumpluff's Leftovers restored its HP a little!
Quagsire's Leftovers restored its HP a little!
End of turn #14
Mr Iggeh (UU)'s Quagsire: 51% HP
Chiko's Jumpluff: 293 HP
Begin Turn #15
Mr Iggeh (UU) withdrew Quagsire!
Mr Iggeh (UU) sent out Ninetales (Lv.100 Ninetales)!
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Jumpluff used Substitute!
Jumpluff made a Substitute!
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Jumpluff's Leftovers restored its HP a little!
End of turn #15
Mr Iggeh (UU)'s Ninetales: 100% HP
Chiko's Jumpluff: 227 HP
Begin Turn #16
Jumpluff used Leech Seed!
Ninetales was seeded!
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Ninetales used Flamethrower!
The Substitute took damage for Jumpluff!
Jumpluff's Substitute faded!
It's super effective!
---------------------------------
Jumpluff's Leftovers restored its HP a little!
Ninetales's health is sapped by Leech Seed!
End of turn #16
Mr Iggeh (UU)'s Ninetales: 88% HP
Chiko's Jumpluff: 284 HP
Begin Turn #17
Chiko withdrew Jumpluff!
Chiko sent out Lanturn (Lv.100 Lanturn)!
Lanturn is hurt by Spikes!
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Ninetales used Flamethrower!
(66 damage)
It's not very effective...
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Ninetales's Leftovers restored its HP a little!
Ninetales's health is sapped by Leech Seed!
Lanturn's Leftovers restored its HP a little!
End of turn #17
Mr Iggeh (UU)'s Ninetales: 82% HP
Chiko's Lanturn: 280 HP
Begin Turn #18
Ninetales used Will-O-Wisp!
Lanturn was burned!
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Lanturn used Thunderbolt!
(42% damage)
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Ninetales's Leftovers restored its HP a little!
Ninetales's health is sapped by Leech Seed!
Lanturn's Leftovers restored its HP a little!
Lanturn is hurt by its burn!
End of turn #18
Mr Iggeh (UU)'s Ninetales: 33% HP
Chiko's Lanturn: 287 HP (Brn)
Begin Turn #19
Mr Iggeh (UU) withdrew Ninetales!
Mr Iggeh (UU) sent out Quagsire (Lv.100 Quagsire)!
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Lanturn used Ice Beam!
(27% damage)
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Lanturn's Leftovers restored its HP a little!
Lanturn is hurt by its burn!
Quagsire's Leftovers restored its HP a little!
End of turn #19
Mr Iggeh (UU)'s Quagsire: 30% HP
Chiko's Lanturn: 259 HP (Brn)
Begin Turn #20
Chiko withdrew Lanturn!
Chiko sent out Claydol (Lv.100 Claydol)!
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Quagsire used Earthquake!
Claydol makes Ground moves miss with Levitate!
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Quagsire's Leftovers restored its HP a little!
End of turn #20
Mr Iggeh (UU)'s Quagsire: 36% HP
Chiko's Claydol: 324 HP
Begin Turn #21
Mr Iggeh (UU) withdrew Quagsire!
Mr Iggeh (UU) sent out Cloyster (Lv.100 Cloyster)!
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Claydol used Earthquake!
(15% damage)
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Cloyster's Leftovers restored its HP a little!
End of turn #21
Mr Iggeh (UU)'s Cloyster: 78% HP
Chiko's Claydol: 324 HP
Begin Turn #22
Chiko withdrew Claydol!
Chiko sent out Lanturn (Lv.100 Lanturn)!
Lanturn is hurt by Spikes!
---------------------------------
Cloyster used Spikes!
Chiko's team had Spikes scattered around it!
---------------------------------
Cloyster's Leftovers restored its HP a little!
Lanturn's Leftovers restored its HP a little!
Lanturn is hurt by its burn!
End of turn #22
Mr Iggeh (UU)'s Cloyster: 84% HP
Chiko's Lanturn: 174 HP (Brn)
Begin Turn #23
Mr Iggeh (UU) withdrew Cloyster!
Mr Iggeh (UU) sent out Lickitung (Lv.100 Lickitung)!
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Lanturn used Toxic!
Lickitung was badly poisoned!
---------------------------------
Lanturn's Leftovers restored its HP a little!
Lanturn is hurt by its burn!
Lickitung's Leftovers restored its HP a little!
Lickitung is hurt by poison!
End of turn #23
Mr Iggeh (UU)'s Lickitung: 75% HP (Psn)
Chiko's Lanturn: 146 HP (Brn)
Begin Turn #24
Chiko withdrew Lanturn!
Chiko sent out Miltank (Lv.100 Miltank)!
Miltank is hurt by Spikes!
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Lickitung used Wish!
Lickitung made a Wish!
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Lickitung's Leftovers restored its HP a little!
Lickitung is hurt by poison!
End of turn #24
Mr Iggeh (UU)'s Lickitung: 69% HP (Psn)
Chiko's Miltank: 257 HP
Begin Turn #25
Mr Iggeh (UU) withdrew Lickitung!
Mr Iggeh (UU) sent out Quagsire (Lv.100 Quagsire)!
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Miltank used Heal Bell!
A bell chimed!
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Lickitung's Wish came true!
Quagsire regained health!
Quagsire's Leftovers restored its HP a little!
End of turn #25
Mr Iggeh (UU)'s Quagsire: 92% HP
Chiko's Miltank: 257 HP
Begin Turn #26
Quagsire is tightening its focus!
Miltank used Seismic Toss!
(30% damage)
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Quagsire lost its focus and couldn't move!
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Quagsire's Leftovers restored its HP a little!
End of turn #26
Mr Iggeh (UU)'s Quagsire: 68% HP
Chiko's Miltank: 257 HP
Begin Turn #27
Mr Iggeh (UU) withdrew Quagsire!
Mr Iggeh (UU) sent out Cloyster (Lv.100 Cloyster)!
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Miltank used Seismic Toss!
(34% damage)
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Cloyster's Leftovers restored its HP a little!
End of turn #27
Mr Iggeh (UU)'s Cloyster: 56% HP
Chiko's Miltank: 257 HP
Begin Turn #28
Miltank used Seismic Toss!
(33% damage)
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Cloyster used Spikes!
Chiko's team had Spikes scattered around it!
---------------------------------
Cloyster's Leftovers restored its HP a little!
End of turn #28
Mr Iggeh (UU)'s Cloyster: 29% HP
Chiko's Miltank: 257 HP
Begin Turn #29
Miltank used Seismic Toss!
(29% damage)
Cloyster fainted!
Mr Iggeh (UU) sent out Lickitung (Lv.100 Lickitung)!
---------------------------------
Lickitung's Leftovers restored its HP a little!
Lickitung is hurt by poison!
End of turn #29
Mr Iggeh (UU)'s Lickitung: 69% HP (Psn)
Chiko's Miltank: 257 HP
Begin Turn #30
Miltank used Seismic Toss!
(31% damage)
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Lickitung used Heal Bell!
A bell chimed!
---------------------------------
Lickitung's Leftovers restored its HP a little!
End of turn #30
Mr Iggeh (UU)'s Lickitung: 44% HP
Chiko's Miltank: 257 HP
Begin Turn #31
Miltank used Seismic Toss!
(31% damage)
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Lickitung used Wish!
Lickitung made a Wish!
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Lickitung's Leftovers restored its HP a little!
End of turn #31
Mr Iggeh (UU)'s Lickitung: 19% HP
Chiko's Miltank: 257 HP
Begin Turn #32
Mr Iggeh (UU) withdrew Lickitung!
Mr Iggeh (UU) sent out Grumpig (Lv.100 Grumpig)!
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Miltank used Thunder Wave!
Grumpig is paralyzed! It may be unable to move!
---------------------------------
Lickitung's Wish came true!
Grumpig's HP is full!
End of turn #32
Mr Iggeh (UU)'s Grumpig: 100% HP (Par)
Chiko's Miltank: 257 HP
Begin Turn #33
Chiko withdrew Miltank!
Chiko sent out Claydol (Lv.100 Claydol)!
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Grumpig used Psychic!
(35 damage)
It's not very effective...
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Claydol's Leftovers restored its HP a little!
End of turn #33
Mr Iggeh (UU)'s Grumpig: 100% HP (Par)
Chiko's Claydol: 309 HP
Begin Turn #34
Claydol used Shadow Ball!
(46% damage)
It's super effective!
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Grumpig used Calm Mind!
Grumpig's Special Attack rose!
Grumpig's Special Defense rose!
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Claydol's Leftovers restored its HP a little!
Grumpig's Leftovers restored its HP a little!
End of turn #34
Mr Iggeh (UU)'s Grumpig: 60% HP (Par)
Chiko's Claydol: 324 HP
Begin Turn #35
Claydol used Cosmic Power!
Claydol's Defense rose!
Claydol's Special Defense rose!
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Grumpig used Ice Punch!
(85 damage)
It's super effective!
---------------------------------
Claydol's Leftovers restored its HP a little!
Grumpig's Leftovers restored its HP a little!
End of turn #35
Mr Iggeh (UU)'s Grumpig: 66% HP (Par)
Chiko's Claydol: 259 HP
原帖由 剎那 於 7/3/2006 11:24 發表
對方沼王和某豬上場可以硬上赫拉
此team要防富迪等特攻pm可以試試大陽岩和月石
原帖由 可愛的兔兒 於 7/3/2006 21:48 發表
月神岩反冥想特攻pm比較吃力的樣子~.~
現在用土偶取代了大鋼蛇 , 針對性地用了影球
貌似只對少部份pm有用 , 有冥想的富迪來招冷凍拳也吃不下的樣子
終歸都是弱點太多了~.~
現在頭疼404運拳~.~救命/.\
原帖由 剎那 於 7/3/2006 22:26 發表
月石有催眠+冥想,加上抗特攻的抗性好
特防也不懶,可以考慮
404hp戰術用土偶硬吃就好
怕覺醒鬼的話把hp物防努力值練滿
295物攻的鋼蛇爆不死奇異花?除非係對方max的291物防 + 上你的大爆炸剛好* 到最低的85% 才有可能餘下漂亮的3HP.........倒運到這地步也無話可說了.......
原帖由 Nido 於 8/3/2006 20:48 發表
當時我的奇異花物防只有244...好像還餘下1%HP-.-
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題外話:久違了的高手-.-..評評我剛更新了的TEAM好嗎?
原帖由 sapphire 於 8/3/2006 20:59 發表
那更有問題了,295攻的用打244防的至少扣432 HP,當時有其他效果嗎?如等等
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其實這樣配招的用 ...
原帖由 剎那 於 7/3/2006 22:26 發表
月石有催眠+冥想,加上抗特攻的抗性好
特防也不懶,可以考慮
404hp戰術用土偶硬吃就好
怕覺醒鬼的話把hp物防努力值練滿
原帖由 PlayerSaber 於 7/3/2006 22:32 發表
真想像不到現在也有非Uber的404戰術..........
速度應該很低.......不過看下來也蠻好用的樣子............
原帖由 Illya 於 8/3/2006 00:57 發表
改成这样吧:
Gyarados(leftovers)
A200,S172,HP136 +A-SA
earthquake,hp rock,dragon dance,taunt
Venusaur(leftovers)
S12,HP252,SD100,D156 +SD-SA
sludge bomb,roar,sleep powder,leech seed
Miltank(leftovers)
S10,SD244,HP252 +D-SA
seismic toss,heall bell,toxic,milk drink
Forretress(leftovers)
HP252 D252 S4 +D-SA
earthquake,hp steel,rapid spin,spikes
Heracross(choice band)
S252 A252 SD4 +S-SA
earthquake/focus punch,megahorn,brick break,rock slide
Lanturn(leftovers)
S68 SD252 SA188 +SD-A
thunderbolt,surf,rest,toxic
p.s.其实我想把Lanturn换成Umbreon wish,baton pass,protect,toixc/shadow ball/man look 但这样改动就太大了
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貌似激活成功了,看着信箱里的乱码正头痛
原帖由 於 8/3/2006 20:22 發表
去升HP不一定係為了替身,當然以牠的耐力就算做了替身多半也會被一招打爆,但有時在沒有替身的情況下硬死對手一招也可能是必要的,事實上覺得為這東東up 252物攻確是有點浪費........
295物攻的鋼蛇爆不死奇異花?除非係對方max的291物防 + 上你的大爆炸剛好* 到最低的85% 才有可能餘下漂亮的3HP.........倒運到這地步也無話可說了.......
赫拉有考慮過換走運拳加入醒鬼嗎?
鋼蛇換做土偶會做成3隻怕冰,想要自爆的高特防pm可考慮卡比(因為Pokemon XD的關係令牠能習得自爆,not大爆炸),對於110物攻種的牠加上有屬修,200威力的自爆也夠用了.......
原帖由 Illya 於 9/3/2006 12:35 發表
改动后以防御和控制为主,主要火力点就是专爱赫拉,其它都以防守为主.所以我还想加只许愿+保护+接力的Umbreon进行支援
Gyarados用hp rock是为了防御对方的Salamence和Gyarados.Forretress面对它们,显得退敌能力不足,而且Salamence很有可能带火炎系招式.Miltank的话,害怕Gyarados的taunt和Salamence的brick break.Gyarados,Forretress和Miltank联防的话比较能够应付不同的情况
Venusaur升12速度努力后,速度快过不加速度的Venusaur和加4到8点速度的Venusaur,正面对抗时会稍占优势.而耐力方面,少这点努力并不会有显著影响.
原帖由 哥比獸 於 11/3/2006 12:50 發表
換走了電燈怪的話任隊就沒有特攻pm了
面對物防pm很吃虧 , 只靠鯉魚龍和赫拉赫羅斯硬打物防盾牌並不明智
鯉魚龍對血翼飛龍明顯是血翼飛龍佔上風 , 貌似用了醒岩都無濟於事
用大奶罐硬吃被威嚇一次的血翼飛龍的 ...
原帖由 PlayerSaber 於 11/3/2006 12:57 發表
鯉魚龍對血翼飛龍.........
後出者會佔優.........
原帖由 可愛的兔兒 於 11/3/2006 13:17 發表
樓上是指對方用血翼飛龍打頭的情況吧...
不過後出者要吃對方一招或讓對方乘機強化一次
不會太好過的說...
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先感謝Illya熱心地為我改team
試用了一下
不太上手(始終不是自己砌的team>.<) ...
原帖由 Illya 於 11/3/2006 15:52 發表
少了特攻其实无关紧要,改动后本来也不是以攻击为主
专爱赫拉大角打上去很痛的,能挡的并不多.遇到打不动的时候也不必硬打,多 ...
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